{"id":65769,"date":"2026-04-15T10:00:00","date_gmt":"2026-04-15T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/?p=65769"},"modified":"2026-04-15T11:58:01","modified_gmt":"2026-04-15T16:58:01","slug":"mirta-ojito-on-deeper-than-the-ocean","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/mirta-ojito-on-deeper-than-the-ocean\/","title":{"rendered":"Mirta Ojito on \u201cDeeper than the Ocean\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>The Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Mirta Ojito, who has written two non-fiction books, has now written her first novel.&nbsp;<em>Deeper Than the Ocean&nbsp;<\/em>(published by Union Square &amp; Co.) is a family drama that moves between Spain, Cuba, and the United States. In this episode of&nbsp;<em>Writing Latinos<\/em>, we talk with Ojito about the meaning of \u201cSpain\u201d for Latinos and the desire to return. We also discuss mothers and daughters, the obligations of love, the sinking of the S.S. 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