{"id":60100,"date":"2025-07-01T10:00:39","date_gmt":"2025-07-01T15:00:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/?p=60100"},"modified":"2026-01-16T20:10:14","modified_gmt":"2026-01-17T02:10:14","slug":"flawed-from-the-outset-sonali-thakkar-on-the-uns-1950-attempt-to-redefine-race","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/flawed-from-the-outset-sonali-thakkar-on-the-uns-1950-attempt-to-redefine-race\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201cFlawed from the Outset\u201d: Sonali Thakkar on the UN\u2019s 1950 Attempt to Redefine Race"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Sonali Thakkar\u2019s <em>The Reeducation of Race: Jewishness and the Politics of Antiracism in Postcolonial Thought<\/em> examines that fluid postwar moment when the ideological and intellectual assumptions of the Cold War had not quite curdled. The story as it\u2019s generally told sees racism recognized in the 1940s as one of the key causes of Nazi atrocities\u2014which meant that race understood as deep biological truth rather than contingent sociological construct seemed to be on its way out. Then the UN got involved\u2014which is where Thakkar has an important new story to unfold.<\/p>\n<p>A longer version of this conversation\u00a0was broadcast on the podcast <a href=\"http:\/\/recallthisbook.org\/\">Recall This Book<\/a>, a <em>Public Books<\/em> partner. You can listen <a href=\"https:\/\/recallthisbook.org\/2024\/03\/07\/124-the-reeducation-of-race-with-sonali-thakkar-jp\/\">here<\/a> or subscribe to\u00a0<em>Recall This Book<\/em>\u00a0on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/recall-this-book\/id1449056698\">Apple Podcasts<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/2gg2aDufPzWJCxAirYkc5c\">Spotify<\/a>, or\u00a0wherever you listen to podcasts.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>John Plotz (JP)<\/strong>: Sonali, would you begin by sharing the key claims of your book?<\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><strong>Sonali Thakkar (ST)<\/strong>: The book is thinking through how attempts to redefine race at the United Nations and especially at UNESCO in the early post\u2013World War II period helped make ideas about Jewishness and Jewish difference central to anti- and postcolonial discourse.<\/p>\n<p>The heart of the story is a document, UNESCO\u2019s 1950 Statement on Race. This statement was put together by leading figures at the time in the sciences and social sciences, including Claude L\u00e9vi-Strauss, Ashley Montagu, Morris Ginsberg, and E. Franklin Frazier. It was an epochal statement, insofar as it sought to end scientific racism and to try to redefine race in explicitly antiracist terms.<\/p>\n<p>So what\u2019s important about this statement is it emerges at the same moment that the UN is trying to think about what a new world order looks like, a remade international order. And this is a moment when race and racism become central to international politics really for the first time in a new way. At the UN, there\u2019s an understanding that race and racism have shattered the old political order and threaten the new one that they\u2019re trying to create in its wake.<\/p>\n<p>On the one hand, there\u2019s a new willingness to disavow and reject race and racism. On the other hand, this is still an international order constitutively structured\u2014as the political theorist Adom Getachew has put it\u2014by \u201cunequal integration and racial hierarchy.\u201d So this is still an imperial international order.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m interested in how the delegitimization of race in this early postwar period is running ahead of the delegitimization of imperialism. There are top-down efforts at the UN and UNESCO to produce an antiracist global pedagogy\u2014and at the same time, top-down efforts to preserve the imperial status quo, which the UN is in no rush to dismantle. As W. E. B. Du Bois puts it in the early postwar moment, the UN was a \u201cplan for world government designed especially to curb aggression, but also to preserve imperial power and even extend and fortify it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>At the same time, there are anticolonial thinkers and activists who are eager to make use of these new institutions and of the opening that emerges at this time\u2014to use that delegitimization of race to further their own aspirations, which are antiracist aspirations and especially anticolonial aspirations.<\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><strong>JP<\/strong>: In the book you have a marvelous discussion of <em>exclusion, intervention, <\/em>and <em>entanglement<\/em>: you are laying out a way of thinking about a knotted genealogy where even if people are not explicitly referenced (I\u2019m sure you don\u2019t see any footnotes to Du Bois in UNESCO writings), nonetheless, there\u2019s evidence of a back-and-forth. That entanglement may be invisible in the overt language and yet signpost clearly who is arguing with whom.<\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><strong>ST<\/strong>: Often, people start the story of the UN and decolonization around 1960. That\u2019s when you have many more formerly colonized nations achieving independence, joining the UN as member states, and when the UN General Assembly passes the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples. But even before some of that has been achieved, anticolonial thinkers were already looking to the UN and you can see these connections at the level of cultural influence and cultural engagement. I\u2019m arguing that the UNESCO race project, which really has not been taken up in postcolonial literary studies, is significant as an intertext that helps show how these separate scenes are connected and actually constitute one story.<\/p>\n\n    <div class=\"wp-block-group pattern related-reading has-oat-background-color has-background has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--40);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--40);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--40);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--40)\">\n\n        <div class=\"block-heading\">Related readings<\/div>\n\n        <div class=\"wp-block-columns wp-block-post gap-tight is-layout-flex wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n\n            <div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n                <figure class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\">\n                  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/caste-class-and-race-70\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1000\" height=\"600\" src=\"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Lawrence-Disrupt-1000x600.jpg\" class=\"attachment-feature_img_crop size-feature_img_crop wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>                <\/figure>\n            <\/div>\n\n            <div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n\n                <div class=\"taxonomy-category wp-block-post-terms\">\n                    <a href=\"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/category\/reviews\/\" rel=\"tag\">Reviews<\/a>\n                <\/div>\n\n                <h5 class=\"h6 wp-block-post-title\">\n                    <a href=\"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/caste-class-and-race-70\/\" target=\"_self\">\u201cCaste, Class, and Race\u201d @70<\/a>\n                <\/h5>\n\n                    <div class=\"pb-author-block\">\n                  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/author\/leah-gordon\/\" class=\"pb-author-img-link\">\n            <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Leah-Gordon-photo-e1549905444631-300x300.jpg\" class=\"pb-author-avatar wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>          <\/a>\n                <a href=\"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/author\/leah-gordon\/\" class=\"pb-author-name\">\n          Leah Gordon        <\/a>\n      <\/div>\n    \n            <\/div>\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n\n  \n<p class=\"nonindented\"><strong>JP<\/strong>: Is there a smoking gun for you? Is it the 1950 UNESCO statement on race? Can you talk about how it came to be, the cast of characters?<\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><strong>ST<\/strong>: UNESCO is the first agency of the UN. It officially comes into existence in 1946, and they have their first general conference that year. And from the beginning, there\u2019s a real preoccupation with how racism threatens humanity, and how there\u2019s a need to constitute a new set of values, a new set of moral principles, on which a new world can be based. The horrors of Nazism and Nazi antisemitism are regularly invoked.<\/p>\n<p>At the same time, there is a recognition that this is a global problem, that racism\u2019s dimensions are global and that colonialism\u2019s genocidal violence\u2014the destruction of cultures in the name of racial superiority\u2014has contributed to this and that its harms must be reassessed.<\/p>\n<p>And yet, UNESCO is not an anticolonial project. So there is enormous tension between those two positions.<\/p>\n<p>From the very beginning, they\u2019re really trying to think, \u201cHow do we reeducate humanity? How do we reeducate the child? Can we? Is racism even something educable?\u201d They\u2019re haunted by the thought that racism is just something they\u2019re not going to be able to get beyond.<\/p>\n<p>Just a little later, the UN is putting together the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948). And the drafting committee includes race, of course, as one of the grounds on which it\u2019s impermissible to discriminate (in Article 2). But they don\u2019t have a lot to say about what race is or isn\u2019t. They\u2019re not trying to define race. That\u2019s the work that the UN\u2019s human rights division outsources to UNESCO. They ask UNESCO to put together an antiracist pedagogical program, \u201cdesigned to remove what is commonly known as racial prejudice\u201d by \u201cdisseminating scientific facts with regard to race.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>This leads to the drafting of the 1950 statement, which is, for me, the beginning of the story. It\u2019s this key moment when scientists and social scientists try to redefine race as malleable and changeable, not fixed. They want to mobilize shifts in the biological and genetic sciences, especially developments in population genetics, to debunk ideas of strict racial taxonomies, where race is this unchangeable thing that just gets passed down from generation to generation.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m making the case that the UNESCO statement\u2019s key claim is about the plasticity of race. But the claim about plasticity is also coming out of this long tradition, by then pretty well established, that really begins with Franz Boas in the early 20th century. For Boas, plasticity is specifically about the malleability of racial form. The authors of the UNESCO statement enact a subtle shift, retaining this racial meaning while also recasting plasticity as the quintessential quality of human beings and connecting it to their capacity for learning, or what they call \u201ceducability.\u201d So they connect the changeability of racial form to the very capacity for human reeducation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><strong>JP<\/strong>: Forgive me if this short-circuits the incredible complexity of the word \u201cplasticity,\u201d but can we connect it directly to the way in which the characteristic stereotypes about Jewishness in Europe from the 19th century on have to do with this chimeric or shape-shifting or metamorphic quality of \u201cthe Jew\u201d? It\u2019s even there in Marx\u2019s \u201cOn the Jewish Question\u201d: somehow, the plasticity of Jewishness sometimes aligned with capitalism or the tendency of modernity to liquefy everything into the cash relationship. Does that notion of Jewishness that is plastic in its very modernity figure in there?<\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><strong>ST<\/strong>: It does, but in a complex way. Boas arrives at his theories about racial plasticity as part of the studies he\u2019s doing in the first decade of the 20th century for the US Immigration Commission. He looks at immigrants from a number of different places. But he begins with Jewish immigrants to the US. And then he goes on in the teens and twenties and later, when he becomes an important activist against antisemitism and Nazism, to make these assertions about the paradigmatic plasticity of Jewishness. And for him, it\u2019s a claim that promises liberation from racial taxonomy and from antisemitism to say, \u201cHey, people are changeable and we have to think about racial form as this malleable and plastic quality. We can see it changing within as little as a generation.\u201d Of course, as you note, there is a great deal of antisemitic discourse that ascribes sinister protean or malleable qualities to Jews, and Boas\u2019s valorization of plasticity does not address that. For him, plasticity suggests a fitness and capacity for assimilation. But an antisemite can flip it around and put it to a very different use. It\u2019s a good illustration of the way that ascriptions of plasticity can be put to different and competing political purposes\u2014it\u2019s not somehow inherently liberatory.<\/p>\n<p>What\u2019s also important about this early moment and the purported \u201cdiscovery\u201d of plasticity among certain populations is that Boas, who is committed to various antiracist causes alongside the struggle against antisemitism, suggests that plasticity is universal but he nonetheless seems to see some groups as more plastic than others. I discuss how in his writings he treats plasticity as an imperative for Black Americans, necessary for their assimilation and amalgamation and liberation from racial prejudice, but also as less available to them, owing to what he perceives as the greater intransigence, the irreducible difference, of their racial form. So plasticity is no political panacea, and it is also distributed in racially differential ways that perpetuate inequalities rather than dissolving them.<br \/>\n<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote\">\n<blockquote>\n<p>I argue that we can extend that logic of the boomerang effect and describe UNESCO\u2019s project of racial reeducation as the colonial educative project now rebounding on Europe.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/figure>\n<p><\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><strong>JP<\/strong>: How do you understand that tension between an anticolonial and a colonial impulse toward antiracism? Do you see in the UNESCO discourse an attempt to justify or excuse the colonial project?<\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><strong>ST<\/strong>: It\u2019s certainly an extension of that 19th-century imperative of colonial educability that we know so well, especially thanks to postcolonial theory. This is something that operates not just on the psyche or the intellect of the colonial subject, but also on their biology and flesh.<\/p>\n<p>The literary critic Deepika Bahri, for instance, has observed that colonial discourse already knows that not only the minds of colonial subjects but also potentially their bodies, their fleshly being, bear these potentials for being remade, even if they\u2019re intractable or intransigent in some ways.<\/p>\n<p>The UNESCO statement certainly perpetuates this position, because it implies that the educability of the colonial subject requires submission to the imperatives to be plastic. For instance, the statement declares that there are \u201cthree major divisions\u201d of \u201cpresent-day mankind\u201d\u2014the Mongoloid, the Negroid, and the Caucasoid\u2014but then assures the reader that these are not permanent types and that these groupings will inevitably change. We have to ask, to whom is this promise of change being extended? To whom is it being extended as an imperative?<\/p>\n<p>But while these colonial dynamics persist and are renovated to meet changing historical circumstances, the UNESCO project also allows us to glimpse some important historical reversals and ironies. Gayatri Chakravorty Spivak describes imperialism\u2019s project of trying to create humanity from savagery among the colonized as \u201csoul-making.\u201d What is really interesting about the mid-century moment I examine is that, all of a sudden, there is a new preoccupation\u2014at UNESCO and beyond\u2014with the way that soul-making is required in Europe, since Europe under fascism has demonstrated its barbarism and racism in such a devastating way. And so as much as the imperative for the colonized to be educable persists and is extended via new understandings of plasticity, it is also the case that some of the thinkers affiliated with UNESCO recognize to some degree what Aim\u00e9 C\u00e9saire and Hannah Arendt described as the boomerang effect, whereby Europe\u2019s colonial violence rebounds on itself in the form of Nazism. I argue that we can extend that logic of the boomerang effect and describe UNESCO\u2019s project of racial reeducation as the colonial educative project now rebounding on Europe.<\/p>\n<p>So you have all of these thinkers, not just radicals or anticolonialists, who are saying, \u201cGosh, there\u2019s been a trading of places. And what we thought of as the savagery out there is actually the savagery here.\u201d And now the project of soul-making is required globally, but nowhere more urgently than in Europe itself.<\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><strong>JP<\/strong>: What do bureaucracies actually do in the world? I pulled out this quote from [Joseph] Conrad\u2019s <em>The Secret Agent<\/em>: at one point somebody says to a terrorist, \u201cSince bombs are your means of expression \u2026\u201d I tend to think of governments\u2019 means of expression as spending money or deploying armies. Their speech acts are actually not speech at all. They\u2019re the stuff that you do with cash or with weapons.<\/p>\n<p>But you\u2019re saying that the words here <em>are <\/em>the means of expression. Clearly people don\u2019t focus too much on the UNESCO bureaucracy when they try to think about the evolution of postcolonial thinking, about anticolonialism, the project, but you\u2019re arguing that we should attend to these words. Where does the rubber meet the road?<\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><strong>ST<\/strong>: The whole project is influential. It\u2019s circulating widely and it has an enduring impact, not least on anticolonial thought, which is my broadest argument. But I am also making the case that this document represents the convergence of many intellectual and political currents. I show how the statement emerges out of concepts developed in Jewish social science and should be understood as a document of Jewish politics.<\/p>\n<p>I also argue that this is a human rights document, and that its status as a declaration carries great significance, generically speaking. In the meetings where they\u2019re drafting the statement and debating its form, they\u2019re very consciously drawing on the form of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. There\u2019s been a lot of work done in literary studies on the genre of declarations and on the UDHR, for instance, as a document that has broad cultural influence.<\/p>\n<p>When it comes to the UNESCO statement\u2019s impact, I argue Frantz Fanon has this critical dialogue going with the statement, with liberal antiracism. We\u2019re used to thinking about people like C\u00e9saire and Fanon as these very trenchant critics of metropolitan racism. But if we consider the ways that the UNESCO project also interests them, then we can see that they\u2019re also critics of liberal antiracism, and that there are different genres of antiracism. In fact, we could read aspects of Fanon\u2019s argument in<em> Black Skin, White Masks<\/em> as engaging very critically with the idea of plasticity so central to the UNESCO statement.<\/p>\n<p>In <em>Black Skin, White Masks<\/em>, Fanon has these pretty famous statements that he makes about Jewishness. On the one hand, at various moments, he\u2019s claiming a kinship between Jewishness and his own Blackness: that they\u2019re united and that there\u2019s a shared struggle and shared suffering; that violations of the rights of Jews are violations of his own rights. Yet there are also these places where he says that in contrast to his own Blackness, Jews essentially are or at least can pass as white, which makes occurrences such as the Holocaust \u201cjust minor episodes in the family history.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But let\u2019s think about what he\u2019s saying not as enduring ahistorical claims about some essentialized notion of Jewish whiteness. Instead, we can read them in their historical context alongside these social scientific reworkings of race that are happening at that moment. If we read his comments on the Holocaust as a family quarrel alongside, say, Boas\u2019s assertions about Jewishness and its paradigmatic plasticity and capacity for assimilation, do we arrive at a different reading? Fanon is writing in this moment where race is being redescribed as plastic. He recognizes this as part of a long colonial history that is still unfolding and is being reasserted in the present, even if rousing documents like the UNESCO statement and the UDHR are promising the arrival of a new humanity that this time will be properly universal. And Fanon is saying, \u201cNo, that\u2019s not the case,\u201d because he is very attuned to the way that plasticity is differentially distributed and prescribed in a racial sense. Fanon sees how Blackness is both subjected to the imperative that it be made plastic and deemed never plastic enough\u2014a position that I noted we find earlier in Boas\u2019s writing, for instance.<\/p>\n\n    <div class=\"wp-block-group pattern related-reading has-oat-background-color has-background has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--40);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--40);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--40);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--40)\">\n\n        <div class=\"block-heading\">Related readings<\/div>\n\n        <div class=\"wp-block-columns wp-block-post gap-tight is-layout-flex wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n\n            <div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n                <figure class=\"wp-block-post-featured-image\">\n                  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/rethinking-holocaust-memory-after-october-7\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1000\" height=\"600\" src=\"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/Lorie_Novak_In_Solidarity_2024-1000x600.jpg\" class=\"attachment-feature_img_crop size-feature_img_crop wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>                <\/figure>\n            <\/div>\n\n            <div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n\n                <div class=\"taxonomy-category wp-block-post-terms\">\n                    <a href=\"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/category\/essays\/\" rel=\"tag\">Essays<\/a>\n                <\/div>\n\n                <h5 class=\"h6 wp-block-post-title\">\n                    <a href=\"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/rethinking-holocaust-memory-after-october-7\/\" target=\"_self\">Rethinking Holocaust Memory after October 7<\/a>\n                <\/h5>\n\n                    <div class=\"pb-author-block\">\n                  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/author\/marianne-hirsch\/\" class=\"pb-author-img-link\">\n            <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Hirsch-headshot-e1591716825658-300x300.jpeg\" class=\"pb-author-avatar wp-post-image\" alt=\"Marianne Hirsch\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Hirsch-headshot-e1591716825658-300x300.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/Hirsch-headshot-e1591716825658.jpeg 447w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/>          <\/a>\n                <a href=\"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/author\/marianne-hirsch\/\" class=\"pb-author-name\">\n          Marianne Hirsch        <\/a>\n      <\/div>\n    \n            <\/div>\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n\n  \n<p class=\"nonindented\"><strong>JP<\/strong>: I began by calling this a <em>liquefied<\/em> moment, and then things curdle. If we think about this as a space of possibility, when things curdle again, whether that\u2019s with the second UNESCO statement or whenever it is, do they curdle back to just the old forms, because this is belatedness? Or is it more like, \u201cThis is a liquid moment,\u201d and then these new formulations are offered and then they in their turn become old and ossified? Is it more like the return of the thing that momentarily seemed like it might be displaced, but it comes back? Or is it more like, \u201cNo, we just have a hardening of whatever new thing we did\u201d?<\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><strong>ST<\/strong>: The new is tainted from the outset. That\u2019s the important thing.<\/p>\n<p>So, there was a real moment of opening after World War II. There was a real moment where these tectonic shifts were taking place. The opening is real. But what fills that opening is an already compromised set of concepts. The very notion of plasticity, like at the conceptual level, is trying to manage and ameliorate the tension of \u201cOkay, we\u2019re antiracist now, but actually we\u2019d still like to hold onto our empires.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>So from the very beginning, the concepts that they\u2019re using are the ones that they think will help them thread this needle. And of course they don\u2019t. So they\u2019re flawed from the outset.<\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><strong>JP<\/strong>: If I understand how Foucault uses the concept of genealogy, part of the problem with genealogy is not that there\u2019s no such thing as novelty in the world, it\u2019s that all of the novelty in the world arises on an antecedent residuum.<\/p>\n<p>So you mobilize the pre-extant categories. That\u2019s a given. You don\u2019t have any other categories. But then once the tectonic plates have shifted, when you mobilize them, they then do something different. In other words, in every moment of tectonic shift, you\u2019re building up new volcanoes, new layers of rock, but they are new and then they in turn go on to have their own results.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s not like we\u2019re trapped in eternal return, it\u2019s just that we only have the tools that we have from the past.<\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><strong>ST<\/strong>: These anticolonial thinkers\u2014Fanon, C\u00e9saire, Ama Ata Aidoo\u2014take up the concepts of plasticity, educability, reparation and reflect them back in a changed way. They do so in a way that either shows up their contradictions, or ironizes them, or puts them to new purposes. Think about what C\u00e9saire manages to accomplish: the way that he takes the pedagogical operations of UNESCO\u2019s race project and finds in it something new and important for his own intellectual formation, which is to develop these tighter analytical connections between antisemitism and various colonial racisms. But even as he\u2019s learning from UNESCO\u2019s race project he\u2019s also deeply critical of aspects of UNESCO\u2019s development work in the Third World, which adopts a reparative ethos toward addressing the harms of racism and colonialism but, in C\u00e9saire\u2019s view, retains a paternalistic and (neo)colonial character.<\/p>\n<p>So that\u2019s where the differences are. We need to look at this historical moment, this intellectual and political scene, in a contrapuntal perspective\u2014which the cultural critic Edward W. Said theorized as a postcolonial interpretive method that draws out the \u201cknotted,\u201d \u201coverlapping,\u201d and \u201cinterconnected\u201d elements of seemingly discrepant discourses and experiences. Then we begin to see how the categories and the concepts can be put to new uses or be turned against themselves and made to mean something a little bit different.<br \/>\n<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote\">\n<blockquote>\n<p>when we see MAGA Republicans and far-right figures becoming the arbiters of what antisemitism is and isn\u2019t, then up is down and down is up. We\u2019re in a really, really terrifying place if we capitulate to their characterizations and demands.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/figure>\n<p><\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><strong>JP<\/strong>: How would you connect the thinking you\u2019re doing in this book for the postwar period to currents in the present?<\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><strong>ST<\/strong>: The coda of the book is called \u201cThe Waning Consensus,\u201d and it was written in fall 2022. And in the coda, I\u2019m reflecting on how we today might regard this mid-century moment of possibility and openness and its lessons. Because from the perspective of the present, what they did in 1950 seems like a historical oddity. It\u2019s an artifact from another time, where they really believed, however misguidedly, that they could sit down and formulate a new understanding of race that would have this globally transformative effect on people\u2019s psyches, on their spiritual and moral formation.<\/p>\n<p>That does not seem possible today. And their conviction that they could, in some way, decisively reeducate racism also feels like an artifact from another time.<\/p>\n<p>The 1950 UNESCO statement really canonized the liberal antiracist consensus that has, in some form or another, prevailed for so many years as a certain common sense. Even as it\u2019s been resisted in various ways. And certainly, that liberal antiracism is deeply, deeply problematic and flawed, and has been undermined precisely because it doesn\u2019t answer the real questions that we care about: If race doesn\u2019t exist, if race is meaningless, why does it still organize our social world and the possibilities for thriving and so on?<\/p>\n<p>But what we see in our current moment is the rise of various kinds of global New Rights that have really undone even that imperfect consensus. And the wavering center has nothing with which to answer it. I don\u2019t think liberal antiracism has good rejoinders to those challenges and attacks.<\/p>\n<p>Also, an important lesson of that era, as we see in Fanon and C\u00e9saire, is that the struggle against antisemitism was linked to the struggle against other kinds of racisms. I trace how they thought through and grappled with these connections in their work, with the UNESCO statement as a kind of conceptual touchstone.<\/p>\n<p>Today, though, we see that connection coming undone, and we see resistance across the political spectrum to situating antisemitism as one form of racism among others, which needs to be analyzed in comparative perspective rather than isolated or exceptionalized. I wrote the coda before October 7 and the start of Israel\u2019s ongoing genocidal assault on Palestinians in Gaza, so I was not yet thinking about the accelerated version of this uncoupling and exceptionalizing that we are seeing today, and the unprecedented extent to which accusations of antisemitism have been weaponized.<\/p>\n<p>However, I do write in the coda of the book about the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance\u2019s definition of antisemitism, which was issued in 2016 and has been adopted by educational institutions, governments, and various civil society organizations. After October 7 and the Gaza solidarity encampments of spring 2024, the widening adoption of the IHRA definition has increasingly become a key tactic in efforts to repress speech critical of Israel and Zionism on college campuses and in civil society. The definition is hugely problematic for the way that it suggests that certain criticisms of Israel or Zionism are inherently antisemitic. And there has been organized pressure on that definition precisely for the ways that it shuts down those kinds of questions, including alternative definitions of antisemitism, such as the Jerusalem Declaration on Anti-Semitism. Another lesson of UNESCO\u2019s race project, though, is about the limits of official definitions, however well-intentioned, to solve by a kind of conceptual fiat political and ideological conflicts.<\/p>\n<p>As I say in the book, antisemitism has to be combatted as part of a broader struggle against racism. When you delink these questions\u2014when you make leftists and Palestinian liberation movements and student protesters the figures for antisemitism in our moment\u2014something very dangerous has happened. And that is that we actually lose sight of what antisemitism is, and where it tends to come from, which is the political right. We also lose sight of how to fight it effectively, which is in a coalitional way and in solidarity with these other principled movements. So when we see MAGA Republicans and far-right figures becoming the arbiters of what antisemitism is and isn\u2019t, then up is down and down is up. 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