{"id":58639,"date":"2024-12-20T10:00:16","date_gmt":"2024-12-20T16:00:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/?p=58639"},"modified":"2026-01-16T20:10:28","modified_gmt":"2026-01-17T02:10:28","slug":"i-love-a-dialectical-reader-and-best-is-a-dialectical-reader-who-cries-jordy-rosenberg-and-annie-mcclanahan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/i-love-a-dialectical-reader-and-best-is-a-dialectical-reader-who-cries-jordy-rosenberg-and-annie-mcclanahan\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201cI Love a Dialectical Reader, and Best Is a Dialectical Reader Who Cries\u201d: Jordy Rosenberg and Annie McClanahan"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Eighteenth century prison break artist and folk hero Jack Sheppard is among history\u2019s most frequently adapted rogues: his exploits have inspired Daniel Defoe, John Gay, Bertolt Brecht, and most recently, Jordy Rosenberg, whose first novel, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.penguinrandomhouse.com\/books\/556691\/confessions-of-the-fox-by-jordy-rosenberg\/\"><em>Confessions of the Fox<\/em><\/a> (2018), rewrites Sheppard as a trans man and Sheppard\u2019s partner Bess as a South Asian lascar and part of the resistance movement in the Fens. Rosenberg embeds the manuscript tracing their love story within a satirical frame narrative of a professor whose discovery of it gets him caught up in an absurd and increasingly alarming tussle with neoliberal academic bureaucracy and corporate malfeasance. Jordy is joined here by <a href=\"https:\/\/faculty.uci.edu\/profile\/?facultyId=6264\">Annie McClanahan<\/a>, a scholar of contemporary literature and culture who describes herself as an unruly interloper in the 18<sup>th<\/sup> century. Like Jordy\u2019s novel, their conversation limns the 18<sup>th<\/sup> and 21<sup>st<\/sup> centuries, taking up 18<sup>th<\/sup> century historical concerns and the messy early history of the novel alongside other textual and vernacular forms, but also inviting us to rethink resistance and utopian possibility today through the lens of this earlier moment. Jordy and Annie leapfrog across centuries, reading the 17<sup>th<\/sup> century ballad \u201cThe Powtes Complaint\u201d\u00a0in relation to extractivism and environmental justice, theorizing the \u201criotous, anarchic, queer language of the dispossessed\u201d that characterizes <em>Confessions of the Fox <\/em>as a kind of historically informed cognitive estrangement for the present, and considering the work theory does (and does not) do in literary works and in academic institutions.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><iframe style=\"width: 100%; max-width: 660px; overflow: hidden; border-radius: 10px;\" src=\"https:\/\/embed.podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/8-6-i-love-a-dialectical-reader-and-best-is\/id1556150939?i=1000680944754\" height=\"175\" frameborder=\"0\" sandbox=\"allow-forms allow-popups allow-same-origin allow-scripts allow-storage-access-by-user-activation allow-top-navigation-by-user-activation\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><em>Subscribe to <\/em>Novel Dialogue<em> on <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/novel-dialogue\/id1556150939\">Apple <\/a><\/em>or <em><a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/2DgVAcpiNg3fSGE8VFKqDA?si=d5e06b554b3741e4\">Spotify<\/a>\u00a0to listen and to be notified when new episodes are released.<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><em>View a transcript of the episode <a href=\"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/ND-8.6-Jordy-Rosenberg-and-Annie-McClanahan-RB-transcript.pdf\">here<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h4>Mentioned in this Episode<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.versobooks.com\/products\/1839-the-london-hanged\">Peter Linebaugh, <em>The London Hanged<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/press.uchicago.edu\/ucp\/books\/book\/chicago\/I\/bo5962741.html\">John Bender, <em>Imagining the Penitentiary<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.deanspade.net\/\">Dean Spade<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Samuel Delany\u2019s <em>Return to Nev\u00e8r\u00ffon <\/em>series (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.weslpress.org\/9780819562708\/tales-of-neveryon\/\"><em>Tales of Nev\u00e8r\u00ffon<\/em><\/a><em>, <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.weslpress.org\/9780819562715\/neveryona-or\/\"><em>Nevery\u00f3na<\/em><\/a><em>, <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.weslpress.org\/9780819562777\/flight-from-neveryon\/\"><em>Flight from Nev\u00e8r\u00ffon<\/em><\/a><em>, <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.weslpress.org\/9780819562784\/return-to-neveryon\/\"><em>Return to Nev\u00e8r\u00ffon<\/em><\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>Samuel Richardson\u2019s <em>Pamela<\/em><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/english.ucdavis.edu\/people\/sal-nicolazzo\">Sal Nicolazzo<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/americanstudies.yale.edu\/people\/greta-lafleur\">Greta LaFleur<\/a><\/li>\n<li>\u201cThe Powtes Complaint,\u201d first printed in William Dugdale\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/quod.lib.umich.edu\/cgi\/t\/text\/text-idx?c=eebo;idno=A36795\"><em>The history of imbanking and drayning of divers fenns and marshes, both in forein parts and in this kingdom, and of the improvements thereby extracted from records, manuscripts, and other authentick testimonies<\/em><\/a> (1662)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/tisch.nyu.edu\/about\/directory\/performance-studies\/3144950\">Fred Moten<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/english.columbia.edu\/content\/saidiya-v-hartman\">Saidiya Hartman<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Jordy Rosenberg, <a href=\"https:\/\/avidly.lareviewofbooks.org\/2014\/05\/09\/gender-trouble-on-mothers-day\/\">\u201cGender Trouble on Mother\u2019s Day<\/a>\u201d and <a href=\"https:\/\/lareviewofbooks.org\/article\/the-daddy-dialectic\/\">\u201cThe Daddy Dialectic\u201d<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Amy De\u2019Ath, \u201cHidden Abodes and Inner Bonds,\u201d in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/core\/books\/after-marx\/B31D646AC09B2547826D0096C079CF61\"><em>After Marx<\/em>, edited by Colleen Lye and Christopher Nealon<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Aziz Yafi, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.palestine-studies.org\/en\/node\/1656245\">\u201cDigging Tunnels with Pens\u201d<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/jasbirkpuar.com\/\">Jasbir Puar<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cI really just wanted to write a novel\u2014I guess to me, this feels very queer\u2014but a novel that was about tenderness and 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