{"id":48841,"date":"2022-06-06T10:00:33","date_gmt":"2022-06-06T15:00:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/?p=48841"},"modified":"2026-01-16T20:16:58","modified_gmt":"2026-01-17T02:16:58","slug":"primary-sources-lauren-redniss-on-the-art-of-dance","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/primary-sources-lauren-redniss-on-the-art-of-dance\/","title":{"rendered":"Lauren Redniss on the Art of Dance"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Lauren Redniss is the recipient of a MacArthur genius grant and the author of four remarkable works of visual nonfiction. These genre-defying books combine oral history, visual art, reportage, and archival research to create volumes that look a bit like graphic novels but read like nothing else you\u2019ve ever experienced. Among them is <em>Radioactive<\/em>, a biography of the scientists Marie and Pierre Curie; <em>Thunder and Lightning<\/em>, a sprawling exploration of the weather; and <em>Oak Flat<\/em>, a work of original reportage about an Apache family trying to protect sacred land from a mining company in modern-day Arizona. Her newest project, a children\u2019s book called <em>Time Capsule<\/em>, has just been released.<\/p>\n<p>When invited to talk about one of her deepest influences, Lauren might have discussed an oral historian she admires, such as Studs Terkel, or a painter to whom she has been compared, such as Paul Klee. Instead, she proposed talking about an entire artistic medium, which she considers to be her greatest source of inspiration: that of dance.<\/p>\n<p>In today\u2019s episode, you\u2019ll hear Lauren discuss the ways in which the multimedia nature of a dance performance has inspired her to create books that readers can experience as events unto themselves. She also talks about how the elements of discipline, pacing, and improvisation\u2014which are all crucial to dance\u2014inform her approach to her own work. And she tells us about how the New York City Ballet became the location of one of the most memorable\u2014and politically transgressive\u2014projects of her career.<\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><iframe style=\"width: 100%; max-width: 660px; overflow: hidden; background: transparent;\" src=\"https:\/\/embed.podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/lauren-redniss-on-the-art-of-dance\/id1620416528?i=1000565309289\" height=\"175\" frameborder=\"0\" sandbox=\"allow-forms allow-popups allow-same-origin allow-scripts allow-storage-access-by-user-activation allow-top-navigation-by-user-activation\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><em>Subscribe to <\/em>Primary Sources<em> on <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/primary-sources\/id1620416528\">Apple<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/5Ekh3Ge0c9lWbOnqStDf9E\">Spotify<\/a>, or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/podcast\/primary-sources-2\">Stitcher<\/a> to listen and to be notified when new episodes are released. Our RSS feed is available <a href=\"https:\/\/primary-sources-public-books.castos.com\/feed\">here<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\">View a transcript of the episode <a href=\"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/05_Redniss_transcript.pdf\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h4>Mentioned in this episode:<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/marthagraham.org\/history\/\">Martha Graham<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9780812993172\"><em>Thunder and Lightning<\/em><\/a>, Lauren Redniss (2015)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/laurenredniss.com\/new-york-city-ballet\/\">New York City Ballet exhibition<\/a>, Lauren Redniss (2019)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wendy_Whelan\">Wendy Whelan<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/George_Balanchine\">George Balanchine<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Lincoln_Kirstein\">Lincoln Kirstein<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/San_Juan_Hill,_Manhattan\">San Juan Hill<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9780374140182\"><em>Dirty Work<\/em><\/a>, Eyal Press (2021)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Busby_Berkeley\">Busby Berkeley<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9780593425930\"><em>Time Capsule<\/em><\/a>, Lauren Redniss (2022)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4>Credits:<\/h4>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><em>Primary Sources<\/em> is a co-production of <em>Public Books<\/em> and <a href=\"https:\/\/typemediacenter.org\/\">Type Media Center<\/a>. 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