{"id":48432,"date":"2022-05-16T10:00:21","date_gmt":"2022-05-16T15:00:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/?p=48432"},"modified":"2026-01-16T20:16:59","modified_gmt":"2026-01-17T02:16:59","slug":"primary-sources-rebecca-solnit-on-george-orwell","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/primary-sources-rebecca-solnit-on-george-orwell\/","title":{"rendered":"Rebecca Solnit on George Orwell"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"nonindented\">Since 1990, historian, activist, and essayist Rebecca Solnit has written more than twenty books, on subjects ranging from natural disasters and wandering to feminism and social change. In the past, Rebecca has singled out female authors such as Virginia Woolf as important influences. Today, though, she\u2019ll be talking about a more surprising writer to whom she feels she owes a debt: George Orwell.<\/p>\n<p>Orwell is best known for essays such as \u201cPolitics and the English Language\u201d and for his chilling portrayal of totalitarianism in novels such as <em>1984<\/em>. He has long been revered by male writers such as George Packer and the late Christopher Hitchens. But female writers, including Rebecca, have tended to be more critical, sometimes taking Orwell to task for ignoring the injustices of sexism.<\/p>\n<p>And yet Rebecca counts Orwell as a major influence. In fact, she has devoted her latest book to his life and work. It\u2019s called <em>Orwell\u2019s Roses<\/em>, and it was inspired by a visit she paid to his rural cottage, where she learned about the gardening he did long ago. Rebecca contends that nature not only mattered greatly to Orwell, but that it is directly related to his antifascism. In this conversation, she elaborates on her unconventional view of Orwell, and she offers an alternative reading of <em>1984<\/em>. She talks about how Orwell was both a socialist and a critic of the left, and why she identifies with this, and argues for the political importance of pleasure and beauty. And she explains why, despite Orwell\u2019s troubling silence about the plight of women, she believes we should still read his works.<\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><iframe style=\"width: 100%; max-width: 660px; overflow: hidden; background: transparent;\" src=\"https:\/\/embed.podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/rebecca-solnit-on-george-orwell\/id1620416528?i=1000561467542\" height=\"175\" frameborder=\"0\" sandbox=\"allow-forms allow-popups allow-same-origin allow-scripts allow-storage-access-by-user-activation allow-top-navigation-by-user-activation\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><em>Subscribe to <\/em>Primary Sources<em> on <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/primary-sources\/id1620416528\">Apple<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/5Ekh3Ge0c9lWbOnqStDf9E\">Spotify<\/a>, or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/podcast\/primary-sources-2\">Stitcher<\/a> to listen and to be notified when new episodes are released. Our RSS feed is available <a href=\"https:\/\/primary-sources-public-books.castos.com\/feed\">here<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\">View a transcript of the episode <a href=\"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/02_Solnit_transcript.pdf\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h4>Mentioned in this episode:<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9780452277502\"><em>Animal Farm<\/em><\/a>, George Orwell (1945)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9780451524935\"><em>1984<\/em><\/a>, George Orwell (1949)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9780544382046\"><em>Homage to Catalonia<\/em><\/a>, George Orwell (1938)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/books.google.com\/books\/about\/The_Orwell_Reader.html?id=DfQlqJxcl0MC\"><em>The Orwell Reader: Fiction, Essays, and Reportage<\/em><\/a> (1956)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9780520282285\"><em>Savage Dreams: A Journey Into the Hidden Wars of the American West<\/em><\/a>, Rebecca Solnit (2014)<\/li>\n<li>\u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/www.george-orwell.org\/A_Good_Word_For_The_Vicar_of_Bray\/0.html\"><span class=\"s9\">A Good Word For The Vicar of Bray<\/span><\/a>,\u201d George Orwell (1946)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/samgreen.to\/\">Sam Green<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Helen_M._Todd\">Helen M. Todd<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ruth_Pitter\">Ruth Pitter<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9781849353267\"><em>Pleasure Activism: The Politics of Feeling Good<\/em><\/a>, Adrienne Maree Brown (2019)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Trofim_Lysenko\">Trofim Lysenko<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9780374140182\"><em>Dirty Work: Essential Jobs and the Hidden Toll of Inequality in America<\/em><\/a>, Eyal Press (2021)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9780156262248\"><em>Down and Out in Paris and London<\/em><\/a>, George Orwell (1933)<\/li>\n<li>\u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/pasointernational.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Colombias-Cut-Flower-Industry_-May-2017-PASO-Compressed.pdf\"><span class=\"s9\">Mother\u2019s Day in the Flower Fields: Labor Conditions and Social Challenges for Colombia\u2019s Flower Sector Employees<\/span><\/a>,\u201d Nate Miller (2017)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9780399590528\"><em>Educated<\/em><\/a>, Tara Westover (2018)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9780593083345\"><em>Recollections of My Nonexistence: A Memoir<\/em><\/a>, Rebecca Solnit (2020)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/James_Baldwin\">James Baldwin<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Virginia_Woolf\">Virginia Woolf<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4>Credits:<\/h4>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><em>Primary Sources<\/em> is a co-production of <em>Public Books<\/em> and <a href=\"https:\/\/typemediacenter.org\/\">Type Media Center<\/a>. 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