{"id":42393,"date":"2021-05-31T09:00:18","date_gmt":"2021-05-31T14:00:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/?p=42393"},"modified":"2026-01-16T20:17:24","modified_gmt":"2026-01-17T02:17:24","slug":"episode-3-data-automation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/episode-3-data-automation\/","title":{"rendered":"Episode 3: Data &#038; Automation"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"nonindented\">Researchers Arthur Gwagwa and Deb Raji join our host, Natalie Kerby, to discuss data, AI, and automation, and the different ways they operate across geopolitical contexts such as the US and Africa. The episode covers not only the harms that can result from these systems but also how we might address and prevent those harms.<\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><iframe style=\"width: 100%; max-width: 660px; overflow: hidden; background: transparent;\" src=\"https:\/\/embed.podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/data-and-automation-with-arthur-gwagwa-deb-raji\/id1523686748?i=1000523583380\" height=\"175\" frameborder=\"0\" sandbox=\"allow-forms allow-popups allow-same-origin allow-scripts allow-storage-access-by-user-activation allow-top-navigation-by-user-activation\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><em>Subscribe to\u00a0<\/em>Public Books 101\u00a0<em>on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/public-books-101\/id1523686748\">Apple<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/52pDLXxtxQOEJTaFPBSi3n?si=sxF5lvz8RUebjh2XzWZMcA\">Spotify<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/podcast\/shoe-leather\/public-books-101\">Stitcher<\/a>, or\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/pca.st\/podcast\/fffa8970-a8e4-0138-e68d-0acc26574db2\">Pocket Casts<\/a>\u00a0<\/em><em>to listen and to be notified when new episodes are released. Our RSS feed is available\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/public-books-101.castos.com\/feed\">here<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><em>View a transcript of the episode <a href=\"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/S3EP3_DataandAutomation_2021_05_31_FINAL.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<h4 class=\"nonindented\">Our guests<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Arthur Gwagwa<\/strong> is a researcher at Utrecht University\u2019s Ethics Institute in the department of philosophy.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Deb Raji<\/strong> is a fellow at Mozilla and works closely with the Algorithmic Justice League.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Natalie Kerby<\/strong>, this season\u2019s host, is a media producer, editor, and researcher who works at the intersection of human rights, digital media, and technology. Currently, she is the digital-content associate at Data &amp; Society, and a volunteer at Interference Archive, an archive of social movements where she coproduces the podcast series <em>Audio Interference<\/em>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4 class=\"nonindented\">Further reading<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li>Arthur Gwagwa, Patti Kachidza, Kathleen Siminyu, and Matthew Smith, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/ircai.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/AI4D_Report_Responsible_AI_in_SSA.pdf\">Responsible Artificial Intelligence in Sub-Saharan Africa<\/a>,\u201d International Research Center for Artificial Intelligence (2021)<\/li>\n<li>Arthur Gwagwa, Erika Kraemer-Mbula, Nagla Rizk, Isaac Rutenberg, and Jeremy de Beer, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/journals.co.za\/doi\/abs\/10.23962\/10539\/30361\">Artificial Intelligence (AI) Deployments in Africa: Benefits, Challenges, and Policy Dimensions<\/a>,\u201d<em>\u00a0African Journal of Information and Communication<\/em> (2020)<\/li>\n<li>Kai-Fu Lee, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hmhbooks.com\/shop\/books\/ai-superpowers\/9781328546395\">AI Superpowers: China, Silicon Valley, and the New World Order<\/a><\/em>\u00a0(Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, 2018)<\/li>\n<li>Matthew L. Smith and Sujaya Neupane, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/idl-bnc-idrc.dspacedirect.org\/handle\/10625\/56949\">Artificial Intelligence and Human Development: Toward a Research Agenda<\/a>,\u201d International Development Research Centre (2018)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What harms can result from AI and automation, and how might we address and prevent those harms?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":24,"featured_media":42394,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1997],"tags":[59,822,1464,2002,293,1712,1894,69],"pbpartner":[1998],"section":[],"pbseries":[],"class_list":["post-42393","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-season-three","tag-africa","tag-artificial-intelligence","tag-automation","tag-becoming-data","tag-data","tag-podcast","tag-public-books-101","tag-technology","pbpartner-data-society"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Episode 3: Data &amp; 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