{"id":41284,"date":"2020-08-03T11:00:15","date_gmt":"2020-08-03T16:00:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/?p=41284"},"modified":"2026-01-16T20:17:59","modified_gmt":"2026-01-17T02:17:59","slug":"episode-3-societies-online","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/episode-3-societies-online\/","title":{"rendered":"Episode 3: Societies Online"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"nonindented\">What kind of social space are we inhabiting when we\u2019re online? How do practices like data collection, data brokering, and surveillance underwrite the \u201cfree\u201d services we enjoy? And who gets hit hardest by the privacy violations that are becoming increasingly commonplace?<\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\">This episode was recorded in two parts. Part one, about Facebook and democracy, features Siva Vaidhyanathan:<\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><iframe style=\"width: 100%; max-width: 660px; overflow: hidden; background: transparent;\" src=\"https:\/\/embed.podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/societies-online-facebook-democracy-siva-vaidhyanathan\/id1523686748?i=1000512273282\" height=\"175\" frameborder=\"0\" sandbox=\"allow-forms allow-popups allow-same-origin allow-scripts allow-storage-access-by-user-activation allow-top-navigation-by-user-activation\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\">Part two, about privacy and power, features Alice E. Marwick:<\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><iframe style=\"width: 100%; max-width: 660px; overflow: hidden; background: transparent;\" src=\"https:\/\/embed.podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/societies-online-privacy-power-with-alice-e-marwick\/id1523686748?i=1000512273285\" height=\"175\" frameborder=\"0\" sandbox=\"allow-forms allow-popups allow-same-origin allow-scripts allow-storage-access-by-user-activation allow-top-navigation-by-user-activation\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><em>Subscribe to <\/em>Public Books 101 <em>on <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/public-books-101\/id1523686748\">Apple<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/52pDLXxtxQOEJTaFPBSi3n?si=sxF5lvz8RUebjh2XzWZMcA\">Spotify<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/podcast\/shoe-leather\/public-books-101\">Stitcher<\/a>, or <a href=\"https:\/\/pca.st\/podcast\/fffa8970-a8e4-0138-e68d-0acc26574db2\">Pocket Casts<\/a> <\/em><em>to listen and to be notified when new episodes are released. Our RSS feed is available\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/public-books-101.castos.com\/feed\">here<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><i>View a list of discussion questions related to these episodes <a href=\"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/reading-resources-the-internet\/\" rev=\"en_rl_none\">here<\/a>.<\/i><\/p>\n<h4>Our guests<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Siva Vaidhyanathan<\/strong> is the Robertson Professor of Media Studies and director of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mediaandcitizenship.org\/\">Center for Media and Citizenship<\/a> at the University of Virginia. He is the author of <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9780190841164\"><em>Antisocial Media: How Facebook Disconnects Us and Undermines Democracy <\/em><\/a>(Oxford University Press, 2018) and <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9780520272897\"><em>The Googlization of Everything (and Why We Should Worry)<\/em><\/a> (University of California Press, 2012).<\/li>\n<li><strong>Alice E. Marwick<\/strong> is an associate professor of communication and the principle researcher at the <a href=\"http:\/\/citap.unc.edu\/\">Center for Information, Technology, and Public Life<\/a>, which she cofounded, at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill. She is the author of <em><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9780300209389\">Status Update: Celebrity, Publicity and Branding in the Social Media Age<\/a>\u00a0<\/em>(Yale University Press, 2013) and a coeditor of\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9781526486875\"><em>The SAGE Handbook of Social Media<\/em><\/a> (Sage, 2019).<\/li>\n<li>\n<div data-pm-slice=\"1 1 [&quot;ul&quot;,{&quot;style&quot;:null,&quot;backgroundColor&quot;:null,&quot;color&quot;:null,&quot;lineHeight&quot;:null,&quot;listStyleType&quot;:null},&quot;li&quot;,{&quot;style&quot;:null,&quot;checked&quot;:null,&quot;value&quot;:null,&quot;displayValue&quot;:null,&quot;backgroundColor&quot;:null,&quot;color&quot;:null,&quot;listStyleType&quot;:null}]\" data-en-clipboard=\"true\"><b>Annie Galvin<\/b>, this season&#8217;s host, is the associate editor at\u00a0<i>Public Books<\/i> and a Mellon\/ACLS Public Fellow. She holds a PhD in English from the University of Virginia, and her <a href=\"https:\/\/anniegalvin.com\/\">academic and public writing<\/a> has focused on contemporary global fiction, visual culture, gender and sexuality, and popular music.<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4>Episode notes<\/h4>\n<p class=\"nonindented\">In this two-part inquiry into what the internet is doing to societies, two leading scholars who study online media take a critical look at both the affordances and dangers of large platforms like Facebook, Google, and Reddit. In part one, Siva Vaidhyanathan breaks down the global power of Facebook: what it provides in a positive sense, but also how exactly it makes money off of its users, and how its design and business model pose a serious threat to democracy. Siva shares some ideas about what would need to change for Facebook to serve its users\u2014and societies\u2014better.<\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\">And in part two, Alice Marwick breaks down what actually happens when companies collect and sell the data that users feed them, why it often feels as though smartphones are listening to us, and what we need to know about how privacy violations impact people differently based on gender, race, and socioeconomic status. Finally, she explains what mainstream discussions of online \u201cmisinformation\u201d get wrong, and what she has found based on her extensive research into the darkest corners of Reddit, 4Chan, and other extremist platforms.<\/p>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><em>View a transcript of the episode <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.cul.columbia.edu\/podcasts\/public-books-101-societies-online-transcript\/\">here<\/a><\/em>.<\/p>\n<h4 class=\"nonindented\">Mentioned in this episode<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li>Siva\u2019s book <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9780190841164\"><em>Antisocial Media: How Facebook Disconnects Us and Undermines Democracy <\/em><\/a>(Oxford University Press, 2018)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/\">Facebook<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amc.com\/shows\/mad-men\/exclusives\/about\"><em>Mad Men<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<li>The 2016 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.270towin.com\/maps\/2016-actual-electoral-map\">electoral-college results<\/a><\/li>\n<li>The <a href=\"https:\/\/case.edu\/ech\/articles\/c\/cuyahoga-river-fire\">Cuyahoga River Fire<\/a> of 1969 and the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.epa.gov\/laws-regulations\/history-clean-water-act\">Clean Water Act<\/a> of 1972<\/li>\n<li>Siva\u2019s writing for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/profile\/siva-vaidhyanathan\"><em>The Guardian<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<li>Siva\u2019s \u201cPublic Thinker\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/www.staging4.publicbooks.org\/public-thinker-siva-vaidhyanathan-on-facebook-and-other-antisocial-media\/\">interview<\/a> in\u00a0<em>Public Books<\/em><\/li>\n<li>Scholars:\n<ul>\n<li>Natasha Sch\u00fcll,\u00a0<em><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9780691160887\">Addiction by Design: Machine Gambling in Las Vegas<\/a><\/em> (2014)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dur.ac.uk\/law\/staff\/display\/?id=14890\">Fiona Vera-Gray<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Alice\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.staging4.publicbooks.org\/open-markets-open-projects-wikipedia-and-the-politics-of-openness\/\">essay<\/a> in\u00a0<em>Public Books<\/em>, \u201cOpen Markets, Open Projects: Wikipedia and the Politics of Openness\u201d<\/li>\n<li>Alice\u2019s extensive <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tiara.org\/research\/\">research<\/a> into many topics related to the internet, including:\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Alice\u2019s <a href=\"http:\/\/How your data are being deeply mined\">article<\/a> \u201cHow Your Data Are Being Deeply Mined,\u201d <em>New York Review of Books<\/em> (2014)<\/span><\/li>\n<li>Alice\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/link.springer.com\/article\/10.1007\/s10676-017-9431-7\">article<\/a> \u201cScandal or Sex Crime? Gendered Privacy and the Celebrity Nude Photo Leaks,\u201d <em>Ethics and Information Technology<\/em> (2017)<\/li>\n<li>Alice\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/openscholarship.wustl.edu\/law_lawreview\/vol95\/iss1\/6\/\">article<\/a>, coauthored with Mary Madden, Michele Gilman, and Karen Levy, \u201cPrivacy, Poverty and Big Data: A Matrix of Vulnerabilities for Poor Americans,\u201d <em>Washington University Law Review<\/em> (2017)<\/li>\n<li>Alice\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/datasociety.net\/library\/media-manipulation-and-disinfo-online\/\">whitepaper<\/a>, coauthored with Rebecca Lewis, \u201cMedia Manipulation and Disinformation Online,\u201d <em>Data &amp; Society<\/em> (2017)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.acxiom.com\/\">Acxiom<\/a>, a third-party data broker<\/li>\n<li>New York City\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/nymag.com\/intelligencer\/2018\/03\/the-crime-fighting-program-that-changed-new-york-forever.html\">CompStat program<\/a> (criminal-justice information system)<\/li>\n<li>The <a href=\"https:\/\/gdpr.eu\/what-is-gdpr\/\">GDPR<\/a>, the EU\u2019s data-protection law<\/li>\n<li>The <a href=\"https:\/\/epic.org\/privacy\/vppa\/\">Video Privacy Protection Act<\/a> of 1988<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4 class=\"nonindented\">Further reading<\/h4>\n<p class=\"nonindented\">Siva recommends:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Nancy K. Baym, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9780745670348\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Personal Connections in the Digital Age<\/span><\/i><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> (<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Polity, 2016).<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Sarah T. Roberts, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9780300235883\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Behind the Screen<\/span><\/i><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> (<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yale University Press, 2019).<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Zeynep Tufekci, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9780300234176\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Twitter and Tear Gas: The Power and Fragility of Networked Protest<\/span><\/i><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> (<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yale University Press, 2017).<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Jos\u00e9 van Dijck, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9780199970780\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Culture of Connectivity<\/span><\/i><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> (<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Oxford University Press, 2013).<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\"><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"nonindented\">Alice recommends:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Simone Browne, <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9780822359388\"><em>Dark Matters: On the Surveillance of Blackness<\/em><\/a> (Duke University Press, 2015).<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Virginia Eubanks, <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9781250215789\"><em>Automating Inequality: How High-Tech Tools Profile, Police, and Punish the Poor<\/em><\/a> (St. Martin\u2019s, 2018).<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Michele E. Gilman, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/papers.ssrn.com\/sol3\/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2182773\">The Class Differential in Privacy Law<\/a>,\u201d <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brooklyn Law Review<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> (2012)<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Sarah E. Igo, <a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/a\/5882\/9780674737501\"><em>The Known Citizen: A History of Privacy in Modern America<\/em><\/a> (Harvard University Press, 2018).<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div><\/div>\n<p class=\"nonindented\"><i>These episodes were produced by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/author\/annie-galvin\/\" rev=\"en_rl_none\">Annie Galvin<\/a>\u00a0and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.publicbooks.org\/author\/jess-engebretson\/\" rev=\"en_rl_none\">Jess Engebretson<\/a> and are licensed under a <a href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by\/4.0\/\" rel=\"noopener\" rev=\"en_rl_none\">Creative Commons-Attribution\u00a0License<\/a>\u00a0(CC-BY 4.0).<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What kind of social space are we inhabiting when we\u2019re online? 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